In this second installment of our interview with Joe "Ironman" Siler we explore how he learned about cannabis oil, how he made it, and he notes how much it cost him versus his estimates of modern medical procedures.

Christians Against Prohibition: How did you hear about "cannabis oil?" Is that what most people call it?
Joe: I had read about the healing properties on the Internet, and finally found http://www.PhoenixTears.ca. This was the website that gave me ALL the information I needed to make cannabis oil, and how to treat my skin cancer. It was to say the least a "God send."

There are a multitude of names that could be used. Hemp Oil (not "hemp seed oil," no medical value there), Marijuana Oil, Ganja Oil, etc…, but the term most used do describe medical use Marijuana, and Marijuana Oil is exactly that. The word "marijuana" is a slang term, but widely accepted as the proper term.

CAP: What made you think you should try it? Why did you think it might work?

Joe: Seven surgical procedures made me decide that "enough was enough," that there had to be a better way. I didn't want any more scars on my face. I didn't want to go through the trauma of another surgery. I was desperate.

Well, when I first went to http://www.PhoenixTears.ca I was a bit skeptical. I thought that if this stuff really could cure cancer why doesn't everybody know about? Well, everybody doesn't know about it. The fed has kept this cure for cancer hidden from the American people for almost a hundred years. What's up with that?

Sorry, I get carried away some times. I actually didn't think it would work, but what did I have to loose? So I gave it a try, and was most pleasantly surprised.

CAP: Did you make the oil yourself?
Joe: Yes, considering that Texas doesn't have an MMJ [medical marijuana] program in-place, I had to make it myself.

CAP: Did you grow your own cannabis or obtain it some other way? Which variety of cannabis was used, sativa, indica, or a mix?
Joe: HA, that's funny. Sorry, but if you knew about my attempts to cultivate, you would laugh too.

I obtained my cannabis through the usual methods, the dreaded "underground," the "Black Market." Wish I could just go down to the local dispensary and pick it up.

[I] don't actually know what kind of cannabis I used. The usual method [of black market purchasing] does not come with quality labeling, no potency labeling, no make and model description, no warning label, just a plastic sandwich bag.

CAP: Can you give an overview of how you made it?
Joe: No, actually I can't. The process involves 99% isopropyl alcohol, and heat. When you work with flammable liquids there is always the danger of fire, and explosion. So all I can do is ask you to visit http://www.PhoenixTears.ca.

CAP: Can you give us a sense of the amount of cannabis you needed to create a useable amount of oil? What sort of ratio are we looking at?
Joe: I use 2 ounces of cannabis when I make the oil I use to treat my skin cancer. In the procedure to make the oil I use 1 pint of isopropyl alcohol to every ounce of cannabis.

The oil obtained from one ounce of cannabis should be enough to cure any Basal Cell lesion.

CAP: How much do you estimate it cost you?
Joe: To date I have spent $1200 in cannabis cost. The cost of other materials needed is minimal.

Considering that I have cured 4 lesions, and have 4 more very close to being cured, I estimate a saving of $18,800. I am also treating my prostate cancer with the oral ingestion of cannabis oil. If this treatment is successful, I will have saved $30,000.

I think that is a pretty good reduction of my health care cost, don't you?

CAP: You bet!

I'm reminded of the story in 2 Kings 5:1-15.

An important man wanted to be rid of a skin problem he had. He learned of a prophet who could help him, he visited the prophet and upon hearing what the prophet recommended, the man became indignant. The prophet told the man to be cured he had to do something simple. But the man had expected a huge show, a complicated procedure, he even brought "750 pounds of silver, 150 pounds of gold, and much clothing" to pay for his healing.

Clearly there are a number of parallels, but the main parallel I thought of first was the cost of what you already had done and the enormous cost of what you were looking at versus finding healing through a relatively easy to grow herb, i.e. something costly, fancy, and complicated versus a humble and (hated) plant which many call a weed.

Stay tuned for the 3rd part of our interview where we learn about how he used it.